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Re: [TRNSYS-users] Changing properties of air in a single room?



Hi David,

 

Thanks for the suggestion. I had a look at the tank models but they don’t seem to quite do what we require. In particular we are looking at a box type shape that we could apply different temperatures to the various walls as they would border different spaces. Our thinking was to model the tank as a room but change the capacitance of the room to represent a different fluid from air, turn off any infiltration etc so that it is essentially a sealed box. Then place rooms on each of the sides of the tanks so that it is completely surrounded. These rooms would then be incident to the outside and a weather file used to determine the various parameters on the outer walls. This determines the temperature of these spaces which will then influence the tank at the centre; we then need to calculate the required heating / cooling to keep the central tank (room) at a constant temperature.

 

So really is it possible to change the properties of the air in a room? I see that it is possible to change the capacitance? And does this approach sound sensible?

 

Thanks again,

 

Aly

 


From: David Bradley [mailto:bradley@tess-inc.com]
Sent: 20 September 2010 16:24
To: Alasdair Douglas
Cc: trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Changing properties of air in a single room?

 

Alasdair,
 I would recommend using an actual tank model; there are three vertically cylindrical tank models in the TRNSYS standard library, one of which allows the volume of liquid in the tank to vary with time. There are horizontally and vertically cylindrical, spherical, and rectangular models in the TESS Library. It is a bit harder to deal with open tanks; the best bet there might be to look at using the Transsolar pool model although it neglects energy loss from the sides of the pool.
regards,
 david

On 9/20/2010 03:50, Alasdair Douglas wrote:

Dear All,

 

We are looking in to a project for which we need to model tanks of liquid (probably oil) within a space and calculate the heating required to keep the oil at a set temperature. Would it be possible to model this tank as a room? Is there a way that the properties of the air in a room could be changed to that of oil while any surrounding spaces would have normal air properties? Or do you think a more simplistic model would be more appropriate?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Aly

 

 
 
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