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Re: [TRNSYS-users] Controller Type2b seems to generate error in flat plate collector outlet temperature



Hooman,

  I doubt that Type2 is doing the wrong thing. It might be worth reading the reference manual section on Type2 if my reply does not make sense but my guess is that early in the morning there is enough solar energy to heat up the stagnant collector fluid above the Type2 turn on temperature difference. However, as soon as the pump starts flowing the outlet temperature drops again because there is not enough solar to maintain the outlet temperature of flowing liquid above the temperature difference. The controller probably oscillates back and forth between the possible decisions (pump on vs pump off) and cannot converge so it "sticks." In your case it sticks in the pump-off position so you see a bit temperature spike until there is enough solar radiation to maintain the outlet temperature above the turn-on temperature difference.

  If you are using Type1 then it is important to be aware that this collector model ignores the thermal capacitance of the collector materials themselves as well as that of the fluid contained in the collector. As a result the collector reacts to changes very fast (sometimes unrealistically fast). You could use Type539 from the TESS Solar library if you have access to it. That collector model accounts for the capacitance of the collector itself. Also make sure that you are using a reasonably short timestep (1-5 minutes) and that there is not some unrealistic mismatch between the size of the tank, the area of the collector array and the flow rate of the pump.

kind regards,

 David



On 09/15/2018 04:48, Hooman Azad via TRNSYS-users wrote:

Dear friends

Please check my simple circuit. A 150 kg tank is supposed to be maintained at 60 degrees all year. A flat plate collector has been employed. When you run the simulation (file FPC1), you see some sharp rises of collector outlet temperature, as high as 400 degrees, which are obviously wrong.

If you remove the type2b controller and, for example, control the pump with type14h (file FPC2), the sharp rises disappear. It seems type2b is responsible for the errors in the first case. Thank you very much for your kind help.

Hooman



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