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Re: [TRNSYS-users] humidity of vetilation air



Marion, thanks for answering that! interesting question and not something I had ever considered!

David



On 05/18/2018 04:44, Marion Hiller via TRNSYS-users wrote:

Dear Karol,

 

have set temperature to 20 and humidity to “relative humidity” and “outside”. What will be value of ventilation air humidity?

 

  • Type 56 does the following:
    Example 1:
    ambient air conditions: Tamb =  8 °C and RHamb = 80 %;
    ventilation: Tvent = 20 °C and RHvent = outside

 

Result: Type 56 calculates the resulting absolute humidity gain by calling psychometrics kernel routine with that Tvent = 20 °C with RHvent = 80 %

 

Example 2:

ambient air conditions: Tamb =  8 °C and wamb = 0.003 kg/kg  
ventilation: Tvent = 20 °C and wvent = outside

 

Result: Type 56 uses wvent = wamb = 0.003 kg/kg  as the resulting absolute humidity gain

 

  • Thus, if you  want to take into account the condition process which changes the relative humidity you have to
  • calculate the changed rel. humidity acc. to temperature change by an another component (AHU, Psychometrics) and
  • give the changed rel. humidity as an input in the ventilation type.

 

Kind regards,

 

Marion

 

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Von: TRNSYS-users [mailto:trnsys-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] Im Auftrag von Karol Bandurski via TRNSYS-users
Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Mai 2018 08:55
An: trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu
Cc: Karol Bandurski <karol.bandurski@put.poznan.pl>; TechSupport@tess-inc.com; hotline <hotline@Transsolar.com>
Betreff: [TRNSYS-users] humidity of vetilation air

 

Dear Experts,

 

In Ventilation Type Manager in TRNBuild there is possibility to set temperature of ventilation air to outside and also humidity to outside.

 

I have set temperature to 20 and humidity to “relative humidity” and “outside”. What will be value of ventilation air humidity?

1)      Does TRNBuild calculate that by heating up or cooling down outside air, to setting (20), the relative humidity also change?

2)      If yes: Does TRNBuild take in to account that part of water will condensate if outside relative humidity is high and set ventilation temperature is much lower?

 

Your respond will be helpful because it is not possible to direct check it by simulation.

 

Kind regards,
Karol

 

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Karol BANDURSKI M. Sc.

Faculty of Civil and Environemntal Engeneering

Division of Heating, Air Conditioning and Air Protection

Poznan University of Technology

www.put.poznan.pl/~karol. bandurski

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Karol_Bandurski

 



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