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Re: [TRNSYS-users] wall transmittance



Francesca,
  There are numerous ways of modeling walls both within TRNSYS and beyond the components that TRNSYS offers. I think it would be worth informing yourself about those modeling methods so that you can apply your data to the most appropriate of them. The simplest wall model accounts only for the wall's thermal resistance and discounts the wall's ability to store energy. It would be relatively easy to use simple equations to tune such a wall model's transmittance (thermal resistance) to match your data. You would not even need a Type. I don't think you'd get a very good fit for your data, however, because walls do have thermal mass.
  You could use a generic lumped capacitance model such as Type963 in the TESS Loads and Structures library in order to account for the thermal mass of the wall as well as its transmittance. However, with such a model you would be discounting where in the wall the mass is located (i.e. the fact that most walls are made up of different layers whose material properties can differ significantly from one to the next.
  Type56 uses a conduction transfer function coefficient wall model. Applying your data to such a wall model and backing out the CTF coefficients would be an interesting and non trivial research project in itself.
  Beyond the CTF wall model there are also finite difference wall models and I am sure others of which I am unaware.
regards,
 David
 

On 4/21/2015 4:33 AM, Francesca Pagliaro wrote:
Thank you Jing for your answer. I'm actually trying to solve an unsteady calculation and compare the results with experimental data, therefore I'd prefer a type where the equation is already inside.

2015-04-20 21:59 GMT+02:00 Jing Hong <hongjing.shirley@gmail.com>:
Francesca,

If you are just going to make a simple calculation, you may try TYPE 9 as data input, insert equation for calculation and add a printer to get output.

Jing

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Francesca Pagliaro <francesca.pagl@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Trnsys users, I’m trying to solve an inverse problem related to wall transmittance. Is it possible to calculate the transmittance of a wall setting in Trnsys only the external  and internal input such as heat flux, temperature, area, on the two sides of the wall? If yes, how?

Thanks


Best regards


Francesca


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