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Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type 9e ERROR



Dear David,

Thanks for your reply!

I checked the parameters of Type9 and corrected. But it appeared another error as follows.

*** Fatal Error at time   :         0.000000
    Generated by Unit     : Not applicable or not available
    Generated by Type     : Not applicable or not available
    TRNSYS Message     48 : The TRNSYS processor has reported that an unrecognized control card was found while trying to read the input file.  This error can be caused by underspecifying a required number of items in the input file.  For example, specifiying only 9 parameters after a "PARAMETERS 10" card has been read can cause this error. The line that caused this error is listed in the reported information below.
    Reported information  : global

*** Notice at time        :         0.000000
    Generated by Unit     : Not applicable or not available
    Generated by Type     : Not applicable or not available
    TRNSYS Message    503 : Just before reporting the error while processing the TRNSYS input file, the TRNSYS processor was performing the task listed in the reported information line below.
    Reported information  : Processing the unit descriptions for the inputs to the UNIT 18 TYPE 65 component.
 
 
*** Fatal Error at time   :         0.000000
    Generated by Unit     : Not applicable or not available
    Generated by Type     : Not applicable or not available
    Message               : Errors found while processing the TRNSYS input file.


How could I solve this problem?

Many thanks in advance!
Br.

wang
 

2012/10/25 David BRADLEY <d.bradley@tess-inc.com>
Wang,
  There is nothing wrong with the data file; I would imagine that the fault lies in the parameters of Type9. check to make sure that you have correctly specified the number of header lines to skip (1 in your case) and the correct number of values to read (7 in your case). The data interval should be 0.1 hours. I would guess that you want to set Type9 to mode 3.
Best,
 David



On 10/25/2012 09:22, 王洋 wrote:
Dear all,

I used Type 9e with an external weather txt file (please see the attached file) using TRNSYS 16, it appeared an error as follows:

*** Fatal Error at time   :      3816.000000
    Generated by Unit     :    17
    Generated by Type     :     9
    Message               : Unable to correctly read from the supplied data file. Please check the file and re-run the simulation. The most likely cause of this problem is an empty or non-existent file.

But this file is not empty or non-existent file.
Is its form of txt file not right or proper for TRNSYS-reading?

Many thanks in advance!
Br.

wang

 

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   1. FW:  TYPE 56, Active layer minflow error (Patrick Fabriek)


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From: Patrick Fabriek <P.H.Fabriek@tudelft.nl>
To: "'d.bradley@tess-inc.com'" <d.bradley@tess-inc.com>
Cc: "'trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu'" <trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:31:20 +0000
Subject: [TRNSYS-users] FW: TYPE 56, Active layer minflow error

 

 

David,

 

Thank you for the fast responds, i will send you the  total map file. The project its not yet complicated, im trying to add additional subsystems to the house, so the model will become more realistic.

 

Im adding a floor heating but i dont have any details about the floor heating (yet). So im trying to make a default floor heating active layer, so that i can later on adjust it with the details of the house.

 

Another question: the exterior walls  have a specified R value, does it matter if i model the exterior walls with multiple layer with combined is that R value or can i just implement 1 layer with the same specified R value?

As the walls a modeled with the response theory it does not really matter what u stick  in between the frontside and backside aslong as the R is the same correct?

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Patrick

 


From: David BRADLEY [d.bradley@tess-inc.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:05 PM
To: Patrick Fabriek
Cc:
trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] TYPE 56, Active layer minflow error

Patrick,
  This is a known bug and one that we are working on solving. The problem appears to come from a dynamic calculation of the transition between laminar and turbulent flow which (to my understanding) includes a correction for the actual water temperature when performed during a simulation in Type56 but for an assumed water temperature when performed in TRNBuild. I have found that if you increase the mass flow rate by a bit then you get away from the problem. It sounds, however, as though this hasn't worked in your case. If the project is not too complicated, please send it and we can have a closer look internally.
Kind regards,
 David

On 10/18/2012 05:57, Patrick Fabriek wrote:

Dear Trnsys users,

 

I have been using Trnsys for a months now and trying to model a simple single floor Zero energy house recently build in Rotterdam.

 

Im now at the point where i am defining the floor heating with active layer in TRNBuild but  i get this error : Specific fluid mass flow of active layer in surface 1 below minimum value of 12,98 kg/m2h.

The minimum allowed inlet specific mass flowrate is valued at 16.68 kg/ h m2 so this error is very strange. I put the desired specific flow rate at 17.

 

I have been increasing the massflow or lowering it still give the error.

Does trnsys studio recalculate specific value somewhere else? anyone has a another solution for implementing floor heating.

 

Regards,

 

Patrick F 

 

 



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