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Re: [TRNSYS-users] minmassflowrate



 

Michael,

 

The min. mass flow rate calcualted by TRNbuild may differ from the calculated during the simulation

If there it switches from turblent to laminar flow. However, this isn’t your problem.

 

I had a quick look at your file

When I open your file  b17 I get an error message for surface 15 (the one with active layer):

 

 

 

The adjacent surface numbers of surface 12 and 15 are wrong!!

 

ZONE Z02

RADIATIONMODE

 BEAM=STANDARD : DIFFUSE=STANDARD : LONGWAVE=STANDARD : GEOMODE=MANUAL

AIRNODE Z02

WALL  =IW01       : SURF= 11 : AREA=     40.66 : INTERNAL

WALL  =ID01       : SURF= 12 : AREA=     44.87 : ADJACENT=Z02 : ADJ_SURF=5 : FRONT : INTEMP = INPUT 1*Z02_TABS_TETA_SW : MFLOW = INPUT 1*Z02_TABS_MASSFLOW : NLOOP = 6 : MFLOWMIN = 15

WALL  =ID02       : SURF= 13 : AREA=      5.09 : BOUNDARY=IDENTICAL

WALL  =ID03       : SURF= 14 : AREA=     12.69 : BOUNDARY=0

WALL  =ID01       : SURF= 15 : AREA=     44.87 : ADJACENT=Z02 : ADJ_SURF=1 : BACK : INTEMP = INPUT 1*Z02_TABS_TETA_SW : MFLOW = INPUT 1*Z02_TABS_MASSFLOW : NLOOP = 6 : MFLOWMIN = 15

WALL  =ID05       : SURF= 16 : AREA=     12.69 : BOUNDARY=IDENTICAL

 

I assume you edit the file manually.

If I delete the wrong ADJ_SURF, and I reopen it TRNbuild it assigns the the correct numbers.

 

Marion

 

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Michael Döbele [mailto:michael.doebele@hochschule-bc.de]
Gesendet: Montag, 18. Juni 2012 23:25
An: trnsys-users@engr.wisc.edu
Betreff: [TRNSYS-users] minmassflowrate

 

Dear TRNSSYS User,

 

i am trying to run an active layer with an specific massflow rate of 15

kg/h m² (absolute value 654.15 kg/h). TRNBuild calculates a minimum

allowed massflow rate of 10.25 kg/h. (446 kg/h) ....so far so good.

But when I set this massflow rate in TRNSYS Studio via Input to the

wanted 654.15 kg/h  I get following error

 

"specific fluid mass flow of active layer in surface 2 below minimum

value of16.26/m2h, increase the minimum mass flow rate or use

autosegmentation feature of TRNBuild for subdividing the surface."

 

This is a really strange behavior. The massflow criteria varies and

seems to depend on the inlet temperature.. I also tried autosegmentation

- I didn´t help, I got the same error message.

Please help me out here..

 

Thank you

 

Michael Döbele