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Re: [TRNSYS-users] type680 COP_rated



Dear Mehdi,

Type680 was obsolete with version TRNSYS16.1 as it was donated to the TRNSYS Standard Library which is now Type107. You can indeed still run a simulation with Type680 in it as there is a DLL provided with the obsolete TESS Components, but you should really update that simulation to Type107.

Best regards,

Matt Duffy


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mehdi Shahrestani" <mahdishahrestani@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, September 15, 2011 9:18
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] type680 COP_rated

Dear Emilia

 

First of all, I could not find type 680 in TESS.

Any way all the models of absorption chillers have some similar approaches. It means that the cop exactly is the provided cooling divided by used heat.

Please be aware that in the Qaux is not taken into account in the cop equation (as it should not be considered based on the open literature).

 

I checked this through the Fortran code of Types 676 to 679 and 107. You can do the same. Also you can find it in TESS documentation related to each type.

But the question is still unsolved that TESS ver 17 does not have type 680!

 

Hope it helps

Mehdi

 


From: trnsys-users-bounces@cae.wisc.edu [mailto:trnsys-users-bounce! s@cae.wisc.edu] On Behalf Of Emilia Visek
Sent: 14 September 2011 20:19
To: Ratnalee Patil
Cc: trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] type680 COP_rated

 

Dear Ratnalee,

Thank you for the explanation. I believed so, but it was not clear from TRNSYS documentation.

 

The type680 si located in HVAC TESS library under single-effect absorption chiller hot-water fired.

 

Best regards,

Emilia Visek

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Ratnalee Patil <Ratnalee@innovativedesign.net> wrote:

Emilia,

 

For the absorption chiller models I believe the rated COP to be supplied as a parameter is thermal COP (Qcooling output/Qheat input to generator). In the COP output from the chiller model however, the electricity consumed by the chiller for the operation (for pumps etc.) is taken into consideration based on the auxiliary electric power (Qaux) supplied as one of the parameters. Thus the output COP = Qcooling output/(Qheat input to generator + Qaux).

 

By the way, where is this Type 680 located? I am aware of Types 676 to 679, Type 681, and Type 107 for absorption chillers.

 

Thanks.

 

Regards,

Ratnalee Patil

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From: Emilia Visek [mailto:emilia.visek@mail.polimi.it]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:14 PM
To: trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu
Subject: [TRNSYS-users] type680 COP_rated

 

Dear all,

The COPrated from type680, is thermal or electrical COP?

Thank you,

EV

 


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