Bastien, The combination (w,RH) is indeed unusual and the programmers of Type 33 did not expect it. If you can do the calculations off-line I would suggest EES or a similar program as well, but there is also a way to calculate the humid air enthalpy from w and RH in TRNSYS. It uses Type 33 (Psychrometrics) and Type 58 (refrigerant properties). 1. In an equation block, calculate Pvsat from w and RH using their definition: Pvsat = w * P / ((0.622 + w) * RH) (note that RH should be from 0 to 1 in this equation, not in %) 2. Input Pvsat (in kPa) and a constant quality into Type 58. You will get the saturation temperature (i.e. Tdb, the dry bulb air temperature of your mixture) as an output 3. Input the temperature from Type 58 and RH into Type 33 and you will get h (using RH is safer than w because small errors In w and Tdb could lead to unfeasible conditions) This obviously does not work for w or RH = 0 and will lead to larger errors for very dry conditions. It also assumes that you know the total pressure P. If you don't you can assume it is 1 atm (or the average pressure at the location), but the errors could be much larger. P affects Pvsat directly so Tdb and h will be affected (you can see that by yourself if you replace P with 1 in the equation for Pvsat in the attached example). I am attaching a simple example that reads RH and w from a weather file to demonstrate the process. You need to watch your units and use a trick to avoid divisions by zero in the equation for Pvsat. Michaël Kummert ESRU, University of Strathclyde From: David Bradley [mailto:bradley@tess-inc.com] Sent: 11 February 2009 20:25 To: Bastien GARBAY Cc: trnsys-users@engr.wisc.edu Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Psychrometrics Bastien, Type33 assumes that you know the dry bulb temperature. You will probably need to use some other tool (EES, perhaps) to get the temperature based on the humidity ratio and relative humidity, then use Type33 to get the enthalpy. Kind regards, David Bastien GARBAY wrote: Dear TRNSYS users, I would like to know, if there is a Psychrometrics model, which calculates the enthalpy of air in function of two others parameters: humidity ratio and relative humidty of air. Thanks for your answer. Bastien Garbay Cabinet SIDLER / ENERTECH Quartier Bourgounion F-26160 FELINES SUR RIMANDOULE tel-fax : +33 (0)4 75 90 18 54 Courriel : garbay@enertech.fr Site : www.enertech.fr ________________________________________ _______________________________________________ TRNSYS-users mailing list TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu https://www-old.cae.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/trnsys-users -- *********************************************************************** Thermal Energy System Specialists (TESS), LLC David BRADLEY 22 N. Carroll Street - Suite 370 Partner Madison, WI 53703 USA P: +1.608.274.2577 F: +1.608.278.1475 E-mail: bradley@tess-inc.com Web Pages: http://www.tess-inc.com and http://www.trnsys.com ***********************************************************************
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