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Re: [TRNSYS-users] TYPE 56 And convergence tolerance



Dear Javier,

It is possible that your system has very different results, depending on the values of ventilation that you obtain with the equation. I guess that your equations are working like a controller, that depending on the value of the room temperature it gives different values of ventilation. In order to give some stability to this control strategy, you may try to use Type93 (Utility/Input Value Recall).

This is the description of Type93:
"The input value recal component remembers the values NI inputs for the preceeding NT timesteps. The values of NI and NT are set as parameters to the component. Such "input value recall" devices are useful in adding time delays to a system that is unrealistically sensitive to input changes or that suffers from control instability. By controlling based on values from a previous time step, systems will become much more robust. It is understood that in such situations, a small enough time step must be used so that the assumption of a delay in sensing the control signal is reasonable."

You just need to store 1 input for 1 timestep (these are the two parameters in Type93). My idea is that you get the result of Type56 (the zone temperature) and use it as input1 to Type93. Then, you use the output from Type93 as the temperature that you use in your equation.

This strategy will give you a more stable simulation.
Best regards,

Diego



javier mota wrote:
dear all:
I AM USING TYPE 56 FOR BUILDING SIMULATION.
    I GET TEMPERATURE OUTPUT FROM TYPE 56,
    THEN I USE AN EQUATION TO CALCULATE VENTILATION.
    IN THIS SIMULATION I GET MANY ERROR OF CONVERGENCE.
    IS ANYTHING I CAN DO.
    I HEVE PROVED TO CHANGE CONVERGENCE TOLERANCE BUT EVEN WITH A VALUE OF 1
    THIS DOES NOT SOLVE ANYTHING.
WHAT MEANS THE CONVERGENCE TOLERANCE, IS IT A MEASURE OF THE ERROR IN ALL THE EQUATIONS OF THE PROYECT.RELTIVE CONVERGENCE TOLERANCE MEANS THAT THE VARIATIONS BETWEENS THE SOLUTIONS OF CONSECUTIVE EQUATION (SOLUTION A STEP N-SOLUTION AT STEP N+1)/(SOLUTION AT STEP N) IS LESS THAT THIS ERROR? FOR
    ALL THE EQUATIONS AND COMPONENTS IN THE PROJECT.
wHAT MAY BE THE MAXIMUN CONVERGENCE TOLERANCE THAT I COUL ADMIT EXPECTING TO
    GET CREDIBLE RESULTS?
    THNKS IN ADVENCE.
    jAVIER MOTA FROM 3I-INGENIERIA, MADRID

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