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Re: [TRNSYS-users] R: water-water heat pump simulation



Jacopo,

  I think you would take the energy transfer outputs from the radiant floor model and impose them on Type690 as part of the sensible load on the space. Basically your radiant floor would augment or diminish the instantaneous gains that are already computed for your space.

kind regards,

 David


On 05/18/2022 09:21, Jacopo Valente wrote:

Thank you for your suggestion. I understand the idea to have a lump capacitance to represent the zone and then control its temperature. However, I only know the type 690 which input refers to an air flow rate. Is there a corresponding type to use in a water-water heat pump, so with a water flow rate?

Thank you again.

kind regards,

Jacopo

 

Da: David BRADLEY
Inviato: lunedì 16 maggio 2022 20:00
A: TRNSYS users mailing list at OneBuilding.org
Cc: Jacopo Valente
Oggetto: Re: [TRNSYS-users] water-water heat pump simulation

 

Jacopo,

 This is a little bit tricky; the problem is that the loads you have are presumably instantaneous heating and cooling loads. If your delivery device were something without a lot of thermal mass (like zonal heat pumps or some fan coils) then I would recommend that you impose the loads directly onto the liquid stream. However, the radiant floor has a lot of thermal mass of its own. I think the best approach would be to impose your loads on a lumped capacitance that is tuned to mimic the zone. Then you can define a radiant floor using Type653 in order to control the temperature of the lumped capacitance that has your original building loads imposed upon it.

kind regards,

 David

 

On 05/16/2022 09:16, Jacopo Valente via TRNSYS-users wrote:

Dear trnsys users,

I’m simulating a ground water source heat pump for residential conditioning system. I have the hourly load profile of the building and i’m not using the type56. However my system has radiant floor as emmiter and i see that it’s possible to use type653 only with building type56. I’m looking for a way to simulate this kind of implant, i try with type 690 but i’m not sure it’s right for a water system. Any suggestions to simulate my implant without type56?

Thank you every all

Best regards,
Jacopo Valente



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3 North Pinckney Street - suite 202
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