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Re: [TRNSYS-users] PCM TYPE IN TRNSYS OR TESS AND ITS INTEGRATION INTO BUILDING WALL



Sajid, you can find some information about Type 399 PCM model in my paper: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/280096748_Active_and_passive_PCM_walls_simulation_-_a_new_TRNSYS_PCM-Type .

Hope it helps.

Best regards,

Luis J. Claros-Marfil

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   1. Re: Generating three times more cooling power than necessary,
      the cooling set temperature doesn't drop (Arian Bahrami)
   2. Re: PCM TYPE IN TRNSYS OR TESS AND ITS INTEGRATION INTO
      BUILDING WALL (Technical Support)
   3. PCM TYPE IN TRNSYS OR TESS AND ITS INTEGRATION INTO BUILDING
      WALL (MEHMOOD Sajid)



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Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Generating three times more cooling power than necessary, the cooling set temperature doesn't drop
It can drop as you said if you have major heat loss for some buildings, but not nessasary. 

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Arian


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On Monday, May 31, 2021, 12:42 PM, RUBIO RUBIO, JOSÉ JAVIER via TRNSYS-users <trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org> wrote:

Absolutely. I asked it because in previous systems I have developed, the set temperature dropped sometimes so now it seems weird to me that providing more cooling power the set temperature doesn’t drop. It is clear then that the cooling type from TRNBuild only begins to work when temperature is higher than the temperature set.

 

Thanks Arian,

 

Regards.

 

José Javier Rubio Rubio.

 

De: Arian Bahrami <arianbhm@yahoo.com>
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Asunto: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Generating three times more cooling power than necessary, the cooling set temperature doesn't drop

 

Hi,

 

I am not sure what you developed since it seems you don't understand the basics. The set points of the cooling are the temperatures that the zone Temp should be higher than those set points so the systems starts working. You got your required temperature as you set. How do you expect to see less temperature while it is working? 

Arian

 


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On Monday, May 31, 2021, 11:49 AM, RUBIO RUBIO, JOSÉ JAVIER via TRNSYS-users <trnsys-users@lists.onebuilding.org> wrote:

To whom it may help,

 

I have developed a cooling system with cooling coils to produce the cooling power that is needed for the zones of my warehouse. Those cooling coils produce three times more cooling power than the different zones of my warehouse need. There are four zones which different set temperature: three of them with 4 Celsius degrees and the other one with 8 Celsius degrees. Despite the fact I generate three times more cooling power than they need, why the air temperature of the zones do not drop below their set temperature?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Regards,

 

José Javier Rubio Rubio.

 

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Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 10:56:30 -0500
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] PCM TYPE IN TRNSYS OR TESS AND ITS INTEGRATION INTO BUILDING WALL

Sajid,

 There is a freely available PCM component in TRNLib, an archive of user-donated components. The link to the archive is here: https://sel.me.wisc.edu/trnsys/trnlib/library16.htm and the PCM component is in the thermal storage section (Type204). Compiled DLLs are provided but they are 32-bit and will therefore only work with the 32-bit version of Trnsys18 or Trnsys17.

 As a side note, while the components in TRNLib are provided for free they are provided without any technical support and while the authors may have done a great job of vetting the components, we have not verified them in any way. 

best,

 david

 

 

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On 2021-05-25 03:24, MEHMOOD Sajid wrote:

Dear All,
 
I am writing to enquire, is there any free type available in TRNSYS or TESS to integrated PCM wall with multizone building (Type 56). i am also looking for any document and or working example which explain in detail, how to integrate PCM wall with Type56.
 
thanks,
 
Best Regards,
Virk
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Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 08:24:45 +0000
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Dear All,

I am writing to enquire, is there any free type available in TRNSYS or TESS to integrated PCM wall with multizone building (Type 56). i am also looking for any document and or working example which explain in detail, how to integrate PCM wall with Type56.

thanks,

Best Regards,
Virk
The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. Is e buidheann carthannais a th’ ann an Oilthigh Dhùn Èideann, clàraichte an Alba, àireamh clàraidh SC005336.
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