Which experts can tell me a question about air
density?
In TRNbuild PROPERTIES about air density 1.2
kg/m^3: Is it a initial value? If outdoor temperature
changes in TrnFlow, this air density value will change
as the teperature or it is a constant?
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1. Re: Information (David BRADLEY)
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From: David BRADLEY <d.bradley@tess-inc.com>
To: "Adriana Gómez Aldana" <adrigomezaldana@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 11:35:52 -0500
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Information
Adriana,
I had thought that I sent a response about this.
In case it did not get to you, here it is again:
...
It would help to know a bit more about the
configuration of your system: what are you drying,
is the material in a big lump, is it spread out on
shelves, is it moving, does it occupy most of the
available space in the chamber or a comparatively
small part of the space, etc.)
I think you could probably use the Type56
multi-zone building model for the drying chamber
itself.
I would guess that you would need to write a new
model for the material that you are drying. If the
material is quite spread-out then this might be
easily enough characterized by a first-order
differential equation and you even might be able to
use Tess Type693. Type693 is intended to model a
thermal lumped capacitance that heats and cools
according to a first-order differential equation but
I imagine that pricipals are basically the same
whether you are talking about thermal capacitance or
moisture capacitance.
If the product is not spread out, if important
moisture gradients develop within it as it dries, or
if its drying process is exothermic (like it is for
compost) then I think you would need to write your
own model or collaborate with someone who could
write the model for you. In order to write the model
you would need to have access to a FORTRAN compiler
such as Intel Visual Fortran v11.x
Once you have the model of the drying substance,
you would connect its moisture loss to a moisture
gain input of the building (drying chamber) model.
Kind regards,
David
On 10/30/2011 20:45, Adriana Gómez Aldana wrote:
Good
Morning,
I
am a TRNSYS user since it is one of the
tools for my phD thesis. Currently, I am
working in a solar drying problem and I
would like to know if there is a special
module to simulate the drying chamber. If
it is possible to acquire this module, I
would be very thankful if you can explain
me how is the procedure to access it.
Which experts can tell me a
question about air density?
In TRNbuild PROPERTIES about
air density 1.2 kg/m^3: Is it a initial value? If
outdoor temperature changes in TrnFlow, this air
density value will change as the teperature or it is a
constant?
When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is
more specific
than "Re: Contents of TRNSYS-users digest..."
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Information (David BRADLEY)
---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
From: David BRADLEY <d.bradley@tess-inc.com>
To: "Adriana Gómez Aldana" <adrigomezaldana@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 11:35:52 -0500
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Information
Adriana,
I had thought that I sent a response about this.
In case it did not get to you, here it is again:
...
It would help to know a bit more about the
configuration of your system: what are you drying,
is the material in a big lump, is it spread out on
shelves, is it moving, does it occupy most of the
available space in the chamber or a comparatively
small part of the space, etc.)
I think you could probably use the Type56
multi-zone building model for the drying chamber
itself.
I would guess that you would need to write a new
model for the material that you are drying. If the
material is quite spread-out then this might be
easily enough characterized by a first-order
differential equation and you even might be able to
use Tess Type693. Type693 is intended to model a
thermal lumped capacitance that heats and cools
according to a first-order differential equation but
I imagine that pricipals are basically the same
whether you are talking about thermal capacitance or
moisture capacitance.
If the product is not spread out, if important
moisture gradients develop within it as it dries, or
if its drying process is exothermic (like it is for
compost) then I think you would need to write your
own model or collaborate with someone who could
write the model for you. In order to write the model
you would need to have access to a FORTRAN compiler
such as Intel Visual Fortran v11.x
Once you have the model of the drying substance,
you would connect its moisture loss to a moisture
gain input of the building (drying chamber) model.
Kind regards,
David
On 10/30/2011 20:45, Adriana Gómez Aldana wrote:
Good Morning,
I am a TRNSYS user
since it is one of the tools for my phD
thesis. Currently, I am working in a solar
drying problem and I would like to know if
there is a special module to simulate the
drying chamber. If it is possible to acquire
this module, I would be very thankful if you
can explain me how is the procedure to
access it.