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Re: [TRNSYS-users] digging into trnflow convergence problems




I am just using a scheduled input (type 14b)  for heating and cooling. I'll try to change that and see how it goes...

Thanks for the tip!!

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Mariëlle Nuchelmans <M.Nuchelmans@chri.nl>

27/09/2010 09:49

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Are you using a thermostate or an equation to control the cooling? You should use an thermostate. An equation gives a zero or an one, so it can go off/on/off/on and your program crashes (on because it reaches setpoint and then off because wanted temperature is reached) A thermostate has a dead band and it chooses on/off after 5 iterations. It is less accurate but your program runs.
 
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It crashes even at n=7 timestep... I am pretty sure it has to do with this temparature thing. A check to my lst file shows this clear pattern with lack of convergence in al the external temperature peaks, so I turned off cooling and the result is I get convergence thanks to interior temperatures going above exterior at most of the previous conflict timesteps... still there are a couple times of year where I still get higher ext. temps, and convergence problems show


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27/09/2010 09:18


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You could try even smaller time-steps, I’ve models with timestep: 0,03125 (n=5), 0,015625 (n=6) and even 0.0078125 (n=7). It just takes a while before it’s finished calculating.

 
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Mariëlle