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Dear all,

   About TRNFLOW: I design a simple air flow Zone, it only has 5 Air Links, one of them is Flow Controller which controls air flow through Window between outside and the Zone. Please tell me: How to design Pollutant Model? It only has CO2 as Pollutant. Especially. about design of the mass balance. CO2 stored, CO2 input, CO2 output. If you know, Please tell me step by step in detail! Many thanks!

  Br.

wang

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Stored variables (C++) (keilholz, werner)
  2. Re: TRNSYS-users Digest, Vol 68, Issue 15 (=?GB2312?B?zfXR8w==?=)


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From: "keilholz, werner" <werner.keilholz@cstb.fr>
To: "Carlos Flores | DECCW. Sydney, Australia" <cflores@ing.uchile.cl>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:13:47 +0200
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Stored variables (C++)

Carlos,

 

You are right that C++ does not have the longest tradition in TRNSYS programming, but the point is, no C++ programmer sane in his mind would want to use these functions. In C or C++ you can just declare variables at global scope and write the word ‘static’ in front – why would you want to use a sort of user-defined stack for that, keep track of the stack pointer etc. ?

If you need to store a name in C++ I suppose you would use a string object, and not try to create a Hollerith constant, right? J

 

I wrote a complete library of TRNSYS types for process control, data transmission & data base access in C – it was a lot of fun and works fine (say the clients), including the real time part controlling all sort of complicated equipment. So I would say TRNSYS does support C++, but you have to program it in C++, not try mimic what they did in FORTRAN 30 years ago.

 

Werner

 

De : carlosfloreslenero@gmail.com [mailto:carlosfloreslenero@gmail.com] De la part de Carlos Flores | DECCW. Sydney, Australia
Envoyé : mardi 10 août 2010 23:09
À : keilholz, werner
Cc : trnsys-users@engr.wisc.edu
Objet : Re: [TRNSYS-users] Stored variables (C++)

 

Hey Werner,

 

That is a shame.  It's sad that TRNSYS does not have a proper support for C++, specially when they claim they do.  It made me waste a couple of days of work.

 

Thanks very much for your answer and for helping me not to waste my time any longer.  

 

Kind regards,

 

Carlos

 

 

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:11 PM, keilholz, werner <werner.keilholz@cstb.fr> wrote:

Hi Carlos,

 

The setStorageVars problem, too, has been encountered before:

http://www.mail-archive.com/trnsys-users@engr.wisc.edu/msg01920.html

 

Basically, my recommendation is not to use it in C or C++ - it’s a bit like asking where you can get fresh hay for your car...

 

Werner

 

De : carlosfloreslenero@gmail.com [mailto:carlosfloreslenero@gmail.com] De la part de Carlos Flores | DECCW. Sydney, Australia
Envoyé : lundi 9 août 2010 11:03
À : trnsys-users@engr.wisc.edu
Objet : Re: [TRNSYS-users] Stored variables (C++)

 

Hey everyone,

 

I have TRNSYS 16 and I am programming a new module using C++.  I've had absolutely all the problems that have been mentioned in the past with regards to stored variables (such as un-updated TRNSYS.h file) and I've solved most of them, but I have been unable to solve one related to pointers.  


For some reason, in TRNSYS.h the functions setStorageVars and setStorageSize need pointer inputs (int*, double*) to work, as opposed to the simple int or double variables used in FORTRAN.  I have spent a lot of time and I have not being able to work this through, and I need to fix this within the next few days or it will have consequences on the project deadline =(

 

Does anybody have the answer to one of these two questions?

 

1) Do you have any example (*.ccp) of a module programmed in C++ that uses stored variables?  That would probably be easiest way to understand how to insert the correct inputs in the setStorageVars function, or

 

2) Do you know how to insert the 'nitems' and 'stored' array in a way that the setStorageVars function will understand?

 

The template generated for C++ does not address these issues and I am unsure how to fix them.

 

Any help would be highly appreciated!  Thanks!

 

Carlos Flores

Energy Research Program

Universidad de Chile




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From: 王洋 <wanghongyang1767@gmail.com>
To: trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:54:10 +0200
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] TRNSYS-users Digest, Vol 68, Issue 15
Dear all,

   About TRNFLOW: I design a simple air flow Zone, it only has 5 Air Links, one of them is Flow Controller which controls air flow through Window between outside and the Zone. Please tell me: How to design Pollutant Model? It only has CO2 as Pollutant. Especially. about design of the mass balance. CO2 stored, CO2 input, CO2 output. If you know, Please tell me step by step in detail! Many thanks!

  Br.

wang

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Today's Topics:

  1. (no subject) (?mit Esiyok)
  2. Skyscraper-Energy consumption of the higher levels
     (Fr?d?ric Oleksandrow)
  3. Re: Atrium simulation (Marion Hiller)
  4. Surface condensation (thiemann.stefan@vdi.de)


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From: "\"Ümit Esiyok\"" <umit.esiyok@uni-dortmund.de>
To: trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 20:57:24 +0200
Subject: [TRNSYS-users] (no subject)
Dear All,

I am going to simulate a five -storey high Atrium. The roof is fully
glazed, I divide the atrium into three Zones but from Archives of TRNSYS
mailing list I saw an E-mail from David, says lowest zone receive no solar
radiation. have anyone an experience with Atrium simulation.

Best Regards

--
Ümit Esiyok

e-mails: umit.esiyok@uni-dortmund.de




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From: "Frédéric Oleksandrow" <frederic.o@vkgroup.be>
To: "trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu" <trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:06:30 +0000
Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Skyscraper-Energy consumption of the higher levels

Hello trnsys users,

 

I’d like to modelize energy consumption for a skyscraper.

I assume that energy consumption is not the same at the 1st floor than at the 70th floor.

How can I take in consideration the wind effects, the stack effect, …for the 70th floor with trnsys ?

 

Thanks to anybody who can help me,

 

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From: "Marion Hiller" <hiller@transsolar.com>
To: trnsys-users <trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:01:11 +0200
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Atrium simulation

Ümit,

For TRNSYS 17, one main focus was the improvement of the simulation of
highly glazed
large spaces such as multi-story atriums with respect to accuracy, user
effort and error-proneness.

In TRNSYS 17 a zone can have multiple airnodes. The solar (diffuse and
beam) radiation is distributed to all surfaces
of all airnodes of the zone. In addition, for external shading factors
of solar radiation can be
handled automatically. Also, for convex zones the incoming beam
radiation can be distributed automatically
depending on the suns position, the external shading and the zone
geometry.

In TRNSYS 16 everything has to be done manually. The atrium has to be
divided into three zone separated
by so-called fictive windows in order to allow solar radiation
penetration from one zone to another zone.
Therefore, for each zone GEOSURF factors for beam radiation have to be
defined. There was no control of Diffuse radiation.
After the transmission through the second adjacent window all solar
radiation is treated as diffuse radiation.
Thus, also the lowest zone receives solar radiation but it is
distributed as diffuse radiation.

For atrium simulation I definitely recommend to use TRNSYS 17.

Marion


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Ümit Esiyok" [mailto:umit.esiyok@uni-dortmund.de]
Gesendet: Montag, 9. August 2010 20:57
An: trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu
Betreff: [TRNSYS-users] (no subject)

Dear All,

I am going to simulate a five -storey high Atrium. The roof is fully
glazed, I divide the atrium into three Zones but from Archives of TRNSYS
mailing list I saw an E-mail from David, says lowest zone receive no
solar radiation. have anyone an experience with Atrium simulation.

Best Regards

--
Ümit Esiyok

e-mails: umit.esiyok@uni-dortmund.de

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From: <thiemann.stefan@vdi.de>
To: <TRNSYS-users@cae.wisc.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:46:37 +0200
Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Surface condensation
Hello,

I have a general queation concerning condensation in Type 56. Does the
 inside condensation flag for a wall consider condensation due to low
 surface temperature when using an active layer for cooling or is it
 the same condensation flag that is used if saturation of the air int
 the room is reached?

Thanks for  a short explanation of the condensation model!

Stefan





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