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Re: [TRNSYS-users] Problems in using humidity ratio



Jace,
  Make sure that wherever possible, you are passing around the atmospheric pressure to the components. Often times the air is not saturated if you know the pressure but is saturated if you assume that pressure is 1atm. The rest of the answer depends a bit on what kind of weather data you are using. If you are using a "standard format" weather file such as TMY2, meteonorm, etc. then the values should be corrected for pressure. The other piece of advice that I would give is that wherever possible, try to pass relative humidity around instead of humidity ratio. The humidity ratio values are so small that when you apply the convergence tolerance of 0.001 or better 0.0001, even a tiny tiny change in humidity ratio can begin to cause some convergence issues. If you use RH, the values are less sensitive.
Best,
 David


On 6/16/2010 01:15, LE GALL, Jace wrote:

Dear All,

 

I am currently using TRNSys to model an HVAC installation but when using the weather data from humid regions such as Singapore or Hong Kong, I have a recurrent message on different units such as Type52b cooling coil, Type667c heat recovery wheel and Type88 single zone model.

 

Message : The referenced UNIT as called the PSYCHROMETRICS routine one or more times during the simulation withan enthalpy greater than that for saturated air and the given dry bulb temperature. The air was assumed saturated and the enthalpy set for this condition.

 

I assume that this error leads to more errors in the final energy given as a result and eventually, even manage to crash my simulation when I lower the time step too much, as the number of messages is limited to 500. I based my calculations on the hypothesis that the humidity ratio asked in the different units is the absolute humidity ratio with is kg of water / kg of dry air.  I have isolated Type52b cooling coil to search more deeply my possible mistakes (constant humidity ratio of 0.02kgw/kga and wet bulb temperature varying from 27 to 33). According to my psychometric chart (at sea level), the air shouldn’t reach saturation but TRNSys tells me the opposite.

 

Has anyone encountered a similar problem in a simulation and was able to solve it?

 

Best Regards,

 

Jace LE GALL

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