Hi!
I felt that I had to add my voice for a forum type support.
Making some statistics based on the archives, the amount of
mails on this mailing list have increased on the average by 20% yearly since
2006. (direct correlation to energy price increase, anyone? ;))
In 2006 that amounted to some 3 mails per work day (assuming
some weeks of vacation yearly...) while as this year it will be some 7 mails
per work day. Assuming a similar trend until 2015 you will by then get roughly
20 mails per workday, i.e. 100 mails weekly. I will not make any further
elaboration or conclusions on that.
I am active on a home music studio forum on my spare time and
personally I find it a lot more motivating browsing and answering only
"my" topics of the forum on a somewhat daily basis, as compared to going
through all of the new TRNSYS mails accumulated in my dedicated outlook folder,
without any order of topic. There are a lot of questions in topics that I don't
feel even remotely connected to, but there is no real way of knowing before you
have a peek.
A wiki is a good idea, but still it will probably not reduce
much the amount of mail.
A real forum engine would in my opinion have other benefits not
yet mentioned, in addition to getting threads under topics:
* integration with main TRNSYS website (centralized)
* password protected areas
* a file upload/download area
* integrated FAQ/Wiki
* etc.
Also, in my opinion the discussion here is somewhat
automatically biased to the frequent mailing list user's opinion. I think the
younger generation used to modern forums are not so active here because they
feel this is a bit awkward way of doing it and thus you will not get as much
response on this matter here either.
Cheers,
Janne
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From: Jones Marcus
[mailto:Marcus.Jones@ait.ac.at]
Sent: den 23 april 2010 12:19
To: 'Redpath David'; trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Kind request for a more
"up-to-date" user forum
David; here’s the full link.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/TRNSYS
For all who would like to contribute; we can discuss table of
contents and other issues in the “discussion” page of the book!
Best regards,
Marcus
MARCUS JONES, MSc
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From: Redpath David [mailto:D.Redpath@ulster.ac.uk]
Sent: April 23, 2010 11:33 AM
To: Jones Marcus
Subject: RE: [TRNSYS-users] Kind request for a more
"up-to-date" user forum
Hi
Marcus,
I can't seem to find the
wikibook I clicked the link you sent but nothing happened. Could you send the
full URL? Thanks
Regards,
David
David Redpath
Research Associate thermal energy storage
Centre for Sustainable Technologies
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jones Marcus [mailto:Marcus.Jones@ait.ac.at]
Sent: Fri 23/04/2010 9:51 AM
To: 'keilholz, werner'; duffy@tess-inc.com; bdo@stb.rwth-aachen.de;
trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Kind request for a more "up-to-date" user
forum
I echo Werner - I like the mailing list over a forum, I don't have time to
check a forum, but I can see the mailing list posts immediately in an Outlook
folder. However, I think it would be great to have a place where substantial
and often posted questions can be developed and solved. I often see the same
absorption chiller questions, how to get a compiler to work, etc. on the list.
It would be useful to have clear and concise information and links for these
issues. We are also currently teaching a course on TRNSYS 17 so hopefully this
could serve as curriculum development. Therefore I (presumptuously) created a
Wikibook for TRNSYS! Its very straightforward to edit;
http://en.wikibooks.org/
Cheers,
Marcus
MARCUS JONES, MSc
Energy Department
Sustainable Building Technologies
AIT Austrian Institute of Technology
Österreichisches Forschungs- und Prüfzentrum Arsenal Ges.m.b.H.
Giefinggasse 2 | 1210 Vienna | Austria
-----Original Message-----
From: keilholz, werner [mailto:werner.keilholz@cstb.fr]
Sent: April 22, 2010 10:57 AM
To: duffy@tess-inc.com; bdo@stb.rwth-aachen.de; trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Kind request for a more "up-to-date" user
forum
Hi all,
Setting up a forum is not very complicated. I made this one (about free maps
for GPS systems, nothing to do with TRNSYS) for a personal project in less than
5 minutes and it is free (except for the commercials):
http://maplorer.forumotion.com/english-discussions-about-maplorer-f3/
I sure could do one for TRNSYS.
However, I'm not sure this is really a good idea:
Getting mail tends to make people react more than if you have to pull info from
a forum. I like the 'real-time' aspect of the current list.
(It is possible to subscribe to threads on forums, but some people don't
understand how it works and find it complicated).
Personally I like the good, old mailing list. And as Matt says, there's always
the archive and nothing beats Google for search it. You can use filters in your
mail program to automatically tag/archive the messages.
How about a vote:
http://software.cstb.fr/trnsys_vote.html
Werner
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Matt Duffy [mailto:duffy@tess-inc.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 22 avril 2010 00:21
À : bdo@stb.rwth-aachen.de; trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu
Objet : Re: [TRNSYS-users] Kind request for a more "up-to-date"
user forum
Dear Bernd Döring,
Thank you for expressing your concern for the TRNSYS Users Email list. I
am not sure if you are aware, but you can indeed search (from your
internet browser) and follow old threads in the archives section.
https://www-old.cae.wisc.edu/pipermail/trnsys-users/
Some ideas have been suggested, and I invite your suggestions as well. I
will make sure to share them with the TRNSYS users group. Unfortunately, I
can only assume that the group does not have the resources to maintain a
thorough forum, but any ideas are welcome.
Best regards,
Matt Duffy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernd Döring" <bdo@stb.rwth-aachen.de>
Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 3:31
Subject:[TRNSYS-users] Kind request for a more "up-to-date" user
forum
Dear TRNSYS expert,
we had the discussions some month ago, but I will come back to this
point again:
A more powerful and user-friendly way of organising the exchange between
the users is highly requested. The e-mail traffic is not clearly
arranged, it is difficult to follow specific threads and so on. Numerous
(also very small) clubs or associations offer such services in the internet.
Who is able and who is responsible to improve this important objective?
What kind of support is needed?
Best regards,
Bernd Döring.
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