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Re: [TRNSYS-users] Unusual solar thermal operation



Fred, Edward

 

I have also noticed that some weather data are read differently depending on which weather data reader you are using (either Type 15 or Type 109).

The example I have found is the weather data for Hemsby (GB) for which, when you plot the total horizontal radiation with Type 15, the output is constantly zero, whereas when you use the Type 109, you get the right values out.

So further than checking the connections are right, you might as well check that the weather data you are using is not outputting zero radiation, in which case you might need to change the weather data reader.

 

Kind regards,

 

François Badinier

Development Engineer

ICAX Ltd

1 Hatfield House

Baltic Street West

London EC1Y OST

francois.badinier@icax.co.uk

www.icax.co.uk

 

 

 

From: Edward Halawa [mailto:Edward.Halawa@unisa.edu.au]
Sent: 23 April 2010 01:59
To: Fred Betz; trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Unusual solar thermal operation

 

Dear Fred,

 

>>My solar thermal panels are not producing any heat or elevated temperature. As the temperature of the water inside the panel doesn’t exceed the ambient temperature, the pumps never start, and there is no flow. <<

 

It is hard for someone else to detect the problem unless he/she looks directly into your TRNSYS project. It seems to me that your control doesn’t work properly, it may be the signal formulation or its connection (perhaps to pump or collector).

 

>>I have verified that the connections from the weather file and the rest of the loop are correct. <<

I am familiar with frustration that arises when a TRNSYS project doesn’t work as expected. I used to ask a colleague of mine to check the detailed results for me, i.e. the printed results of any outputs from components that I suspect create the problem. You need to create a file (I used to name it check.dat) that saves the printer (TYPE 25) outputs of those components. Using excel, then you (or your colleague) can open the file and go through it line by line to see if the make sense.

 

In your case, you can try by setting a simulation stop time of say 1 week (168 hrs) or even one day just to include the hours when solar radiation exists.

 

Try to run the DHW.tpf in the TRNYS \Examples folder and compare it with the one that you developed.

 

regards,

edward

 

From: Fred Betz [mailto:fbetz@aeieng.com]
Sent: Friday, 23 April 2010 7:14 AM
To: trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu
Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Unusual solar thermal operation

 

TRNSYS Users,

 

My solar thermal panels are not producing any heat or elevated temperature. As the temperature of the water inside the panel doesn’t exceed the ambient temperature, the pumps never start, and there is no flow.

 

I have verified that the connections from the weather file and the rest of the loop are correct.

 

I put in the specs and IAM for this panel from the SRCC data sheet.

 

Any thoughts on what I might be forgetting/doing wrong?

 

Thanks,

 

Fred

 

 

Fred Betz  PhD., LEED AP
Sustainable Systems Analyst

 

AEI | AFFILIATED ENGINEERS, INC.  
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