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Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type-2b??? (part2)



Hello Christopher!
 
You can connect the collector-temp to the Upper-Input-Value and the tank-temp. to the Lower and set the deadband e.g. to 4,5 & 5,5 (around 5).
See the attached file!
 
Viele Grüße und gutes Gelingen,
    Matthias Kersken
 

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Von: Haluf, Christopher [mailto:christopher.haluf@siemens.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. November 2009 14:59
An: 'Francois Badinier'; 'Besana Francesco'; trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu
Betreff: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type-2b??? (part2)

Dear all!
 
It's good to see that you are discussing this topic concerning Type 2b, because I'm also having some problems to make this type do what I want it to.
 
I have a solarthermal system which is using a water tank in order to save the heat. What I want to do is to control the pump in my system via Type 2b. I want the pump to work only if the difference between the average tank temperature and the outlet fluid temperature of the evacuated tube collectors is more than 5K. Of course, the outlet fluid temperature of the collectors has to be the higher temperature.
 
Is it possible to use Type 2b in order to solve this problem or should I use another controller? In this case, which one would be the best one?
 
Any help would highly be appreciated!
 

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Christopher Haluf (Intern)


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Von: Francois Badinier [mailto:francois.badinier@icax.co.uk]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. November 2009 14:37
An: 'Besana Francesco'; trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu
Betreff: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Type-2b??? (part2)

Francesco

 

Sorry I just missed one thing:

-          You have to set your ?lower input temperature? to 20.5, as it is now your fixed temperature to compare with.

I forgot to do that in the modified project... sorry my bad.

 

However, you?ll see that the signal won?t go to 0 when it reaches 22 C (in your schedule), as it has to strictly go over 22 for the signal to switch to 0. So if you put in your schedule 23C instead of 22C, you?ll see the signal switching.

 

Regards,

 

François Badinier

Development Engineer

ICAX Ltd

1 Hatfield House

Baltic Street West

London EC1Y OST

francois.badinier@icax.co.uk

www.icax.co.uk

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Besana Francesco [mailto:Francesco.Besana@eurac.edu]
Sent: 25 November 2009 11:06
To: trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu
Subject: [TRNSYS-users] Type-2b???

 

Dear Trnsys-colleague,

It is unbelievable but I have spend more than one hour on that and still doesn't work...the point is:

 

I would like to switch off a signal when the difference between the High Temp (fix to 22 ) and Low Temp is less than 0 and switch on again when the difference is higher than 1.5..are you able to do that?

 

At the moment in my deck (attached) it seems that instead off an hysteresis loop I have just a value limit 1.5 where is ON and OFF around it!!!

 

Thanks a lot and suggestions are well accepted

 

Francesco

  

 

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