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Re: [TRNSYS-users] Thermodynamic property calculation, refrigerants R410a, R407c, R404a and R134a
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- Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Thermodynamic property calculation, refrigerants R410a, R407c, R404a and R134a
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- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:18:37 +0200
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- Thread-topic: [TRNSYS-users] Thermodynamic property calculation, refrigerants R410a, R407c, R404a and R134a
Dear Mr. Duffy,
first of all, thank you for your answer. Indeed, I found information about thermodynamic property calculation of R-11, R-12, R-13, R-14, R-22, R-114A, R-134A, R-500, R-502 and ammonia(R-717) in Type58. Furthermore, I used EES Professional in combination with TRNSYS until I found out that the maximum number of calls between EES and TRNSYS is around 2^16, which might be a WINDOWS, a TRNSYS or an EES problem. Additionally, the communication between EES and WINDOWS is incredibly slow. Due to these reasons I decided to write a new Type for TRNSYS and now, I solved most of the problems (including appropriate psychrometrics calculation). One of the few problems left is the thermodynamic property calculation of the refrigerants R410a, R407c, R404a and R134a.
I am working on this refrigerant problem for days (reading related papers, calling relevant companies, trying out some calculations etc.) and unfortunately, I am not able to find an equation (-fit) which calculates the properties (e.g. enthalpy(T,P) or enthalpy(T,x)) at least almost as good as EES does it.
If you might help me anyway, I would appreciate it very much.
Thank you once again.
Sincerely yours,
Mathaeus Nierzwicki
Mathaeus Nierzwicki
Forschung / Research
Institut für Solartechnik SPF: Adresse / Website
Hochschule für Technik Rapperswil HSR
Tel. +41 55 222 48 30
Fax +41 55 222 48 44
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Duffy [mailto:duffy@tess-inc.com]
Sent: Freitag, 16. Oktober 2009 14:31
To: Nierzwicki Mathaeus Lukas (mathaeus.nierzwicki@solarenergy.ch); trnsys-users@cae.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: [TRNSYS-users] Thermodynamic property calculation, refrigerants R410a, R407c, R404a and R134a
Dear Mathaeus,
The following are the available refrigerants for Type58: R-11, R-12, R-13,
R-14, R-22, R-114A, R-134A, R-500, R-502, ammonia (R-717) and steam
(R-718).
I am sure the other properties of the refrigerants that you listed are
available in EES. With EES Professional, you may couple that to your
TRNSYS simulation with Type66.
Best regards,
Matt Duffy
----- Original Message -----
From: "" <mathaeus.nierzwicki@solarenergy.ch>
Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 1:17
Subject:[TRNSYS-users] Thermodynamic property calculation,refrigerants
R410a, R407c, R404a and R134a
Dear all,
I would like to implement a calculation of thermodynamic properties of the
refrigerants R410a, R407c, R404a and R134a in my type. I already found a
source code
for the calculation of R134a in Type58 - does anyone know, if a
Type/source code for
the calculation of R410a, R407c, R404a exists?
Sincerely,
mathaeus
________________________________
Mathaeus Nierzwicki
Forschung / Research
Institut für Solartechnik SPF:
Adresse<http://www.solarenergy.ch/spf.php?lang=de&fam=44&tab=3> /
Website<http://www.solarenergy.ch/spf.php?lang=de&fam=41&tab=1>
Hochschule für Technik Rapperswil HSR
Tel. +41 55 222 48 30
Fax +41 55 222 48 44
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