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Re: [TRNSYS-users] Heat exchanger temperature control



David,

you are right about the time step. I started a new project and forgot to change the default. I will look at that. I am not sure my problems are solved though.

Thank you,

Mario Ortiz

On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:01:59 -0600
 David Bradley <bradley@tess-inc.com> wrote:
Mario,
I have not gotten a chance to look at the attached files but chances are that there are some convergence problems associated with the iterative feedback controller. As I mentioned in an email yesterday, the simplifying assumptions that often get made in building models of hydronic loop components (pumps, heat exchangers, etc.) neglect the thermal capacitance of the fluid in the devices, which in turn leads to very fast reactions to control decisions. In some cases, putting time delays on controllers helps solve the convergence problems but often, it just masks an underlying issue. My recommendation would be to make sure that you have at least one timestep of storage in your loop (in other words, model the pipes with some realistic thermal losses), reduce the time step and tighten the tolerances to at least 0.0001 (the default is 0.001 I think).

Alternatively, there is a model of a heat exchanger that controls the outlet temperature using an internal bypass available in the TESS Hydronics Library.
Kind regards,
David


Mario Leroy Ortiz wrote:
TESS and TRNSYS users,

Please help me with the attached files...

I am having some problems controlling the outlet temperature of the cold side of a type 5b counter flow heat exchanger.

I am modeling a plate and frame heat exchanger where the heat source is a solar thermal array and the cold side charges a storage tank. Heat is used for a building load.

My example project file is simple.

Water at a constant temperature (65C) is supplied to a heat exchanger with a varying flow rate (low in morning and afternoon, high at midday) to mimic what might be supplied by a solar array.

I am trying to maintain the heat exchanger cold side temperature (tank heat supply) at 60C using a variable speed pump and an iterative feedback controller.

Heat is drawn from the tank to the building load.

There are 7 days in the simulation. Day 4 and day 7 seem to work right.

On the other days, during the last hour of time when solar thermally heated water is supplied to the heat exchanger, the cold heat exchanger outlet temperature seems to drop prematurely due to the cold side pump speeding up. Under certain unknown circumstances (days 4 and 7), the cold side pump flow mirrors the hot side pump flow and the cold side temperature is maintained for most of the time that solar thermal heat is available. For unknown (to me) reasons, at other times the cold side pump flow is sporadic (speeds up rapidly, decreasing the cold side outlet temperature), especially late in the afternoon.

Attached are the project file and input file for my tank.

This is an example of the problems I am seeing in a larger project file. This project does not show it, but what I see in the larger project is the cold side pump turning off on me when the hot pump is running at full capacity, causing my solar loop to get very hot.

Any assistance with this problem is appreciated.

Thank you,

Mario Ortiz
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